Post by Matthew on Oct 9, 2006 12:26:52 GMT -5
Language? The word I used that you edited out of my post is not even a cuss word. Its a hyphenated word that is another term for a donkey. You left the only actual cuss word I used (the H one) in the post?!
There was NO bashing. Lock it. I resisted all urges to chime in on this thread for 2 weeks. I just couldn't hold back once everyone started with the distorted view on reality. To say Kirk is not generally a parker is like saying the sky has a greenish tint. It just ain't true. And if he did genuinely try to run a whole race and had mechanical problems, then sorry, forgive me for not believing that's true purely based on all of his other previous actions.
I'm not bashing Kirk. I am only stating facts. If facts hurt, well, sometimes truth is painfull.
Would you think Jeff Green is a parker? If he drops out early next week, will you immediately cry, "PARK?" No, no one would because he's never done it...much less been a habitual offender. On the opposite side of that are people like Kirk, Morgan, McGlynn, Jeff Fuller, NEMCO, etc...
To me, a park is a park. There's no difference in a S&P and parking the car with one lap to go in my book. (just me personally) I feel that parking a car capable of continuing is sacrelidge and a disgrace to our former sport. Of course, again, that's just me personally.
So judging by your list of excuses out of races, here's my view on it:
1981 College Station - Kirk was in Jimmy Means' backup car, he had no say whether he ran 1 lap or 100 laps
He knew when he took the gig that it would be a park. He could have always said, "no I am a RACER...find someone else to park your backup." But easy for me to say. I didn't get paid for it. But I doubt Kirk got very much either.
2002 Loudon - First race for this team.. they very well might have had a mechanical problem.. since Kirk had been away from the Cup series for so long
He was a field filler that race. Seriously doubt you on the legitimate equipment failure. He was also getting a lot of help from Brett Bodine Racing #11 back then.
2004 Rockingham - Short field, he parked it
2004 Las Vegas - If I remember correctly, there WAS smoke coming out from behind the 72 car, sign of an actual engine problem
Don't remember. Again, I'm just assuming based upon previous actions. The boy who cried wolf comes to mind.
2004 Bristol - Kirk wrecked in qualifying, this was his backup... it was a 2002 Taurus, that thing would have been dangerous to have running on the track
Racing is a very dangerous sport. If you're scared of scratcing your car or hitting the wall or blowing your engine, you're in the wrong business. And...after all, this was STILL a park. Kinda the point I was trying to make. Just because you feel it may be justified, doesn't take away from the fact that it was STILL a park.
2004 Fort Worth & Fontana - Still running that 2002 Taurus, he would have probably caused a wreck much like Andy Hillenburg did at Darlington that damaged Gordon & Stewart's cars
Ditto from above. At least Hillenburg/Hover were RACING when Jeff Gordon ran all over him then cried because he was so much faster.
2004 Pocono - 42 laps at Pocono.... that thing wasn't parked, you aren't S&P'ing when you do that much wear to a car
Like I said earlier, a park is a park is a park in my book. 42 laps. 2 laps. 499 laps. Its all the same to me.
2004 Michigan - He probably did park it
2004 Dover - Didn't the car start smoking here too? Wouldn't that be fair reason to pull it in the garage?
I don't know. How about every other time?
2004 Kansas - I'm not sure.. so I won't explain.. I'll assume he S&P'd.. but clutch problem may have been something for real.. not sure
2005 Pocono - Yes, he parked it, he needed money after missing every other race that season
2006 Daytona (400) - ran 28 laps in the draft.. seems kind of stupid if you're trying to park it.. since you'd be putting yourself and your car in that much danger.. probably felt out that the car had no chance of running half decent, so he made the smart decision NOT to hurt himself or anyone else
Again. Wrong business to be in. He parked at Dega after a gnat hit the front grille so I'm assuming this was just a continuation.
There was NO bashing. Lock it. I resisted all urges to chime in on this thread for 2 weeks. I just couldn't hold back once everyone started with the distorted view on reality. To say Kirk is not generally a parker is like saying the sky has a greenish tint. It just ain't true. And if he did genuinely try to run a whole race and had mechanical problems, then sorry, forgive me for not believing that's true purely based on all of his other previous actions.
I'm not bashing Kirk. I am only stating facts. If facts hurt, well, sometimes truth is painfull.
Would you think Jeff Green is a parker? If he drops out early next week, will you immediately cry, "PARK?" No, no one would because he's never done it...much less been a habitual offender. On the opposite side of that are people like Kirk, Morgan, McGlynn, Jeff Fuller, NEMCO, etc...
To me, a park is a park. There's no difference in a S&P and parking the car with one lap to go in my book. (just me personally) I feel that parking a car capable of continuing is sacrelidge and a disgrace to our former sport. Of course, again, that's just me personally.
So judging by your list of excuses out of races, here's my view on it:
1981 College Station - Kirk was in Jimmy Means' backup car, he had no say whether he ran 1 lap or 100 laps
He knew when he took the gig that it would be a park. He could have always said, "no I am a RACER...find someone else to park your backup." But easy for me to say. I didn't get paid for it. But I doubt Kirk got very much either.
2002 Loudon - First race for this team.. they very well might have had a mechanical problem.. since Kirk had been away from the Cup series for so long
He was a field filler that race. Seriously doubt you on the legitimate equipment failure. He was also getting a lot of help from Brett Bodine Racing #11 back then.
2004 Rockingham - Short field, he parked it
2004 Las Vegas - If I remember correctly, there WAS smoke coming out from behind the 72 car, sign of an actual engine problem
Don't remember. Again, I'm just assuming based upon previous actions. The boy who cried wolf comes to mind.
2004 Bristol - Kirk wrecked in qualifying, this was his backup... it was a 2002 Taurus, that thing would have been dangerous to have running on the track
Racing is a very dangerous sport. If you're scared of scratcing your car or hitting the wall or blowing your engine, you're in the wrong business. And...after all, this was STILL a park. Kinda the point I was trying to make. Just because you feel it may be justified, doesn't take away from the fact that it was STILL a park.
2004 Fort Worth & Fontana - Still running that 2002 Taurus, he would have probably caused a wreck much like Andy Hillenburg did at Darlington that damaged Gordon & Stewart's cars
Ditto from above. At least Hillenburg/Hover were RACING when Jeff Gordon ran all over him then cried because he was so much faster.
2004 Pocono - 42 laps at Pocono.... that thing wasn't parked, you aren't S&P'ing when you do that much wear to a car
Like I said earlier, a park is a park is a park in my book. 42 laps. 2 laps. 499 laps. Its all the same to me.
2004 Michigan - He probably did park it
2004 Dover - Didn't the car start smoking here too? Wouldn't that be fair reason to pull it in the garage?
I don't know. How about every other time?
2004 Kansas - I'm not sure.. so I won't explain.. I'll assume he S&P'd.. but clutch problem may have been something for real.. not sure
2005 Pocono - Yes, he parked it, he needed money after missing every other race that season
2006 Daytona (400) - ran 28 laps in the draft.. seems kind of stupid if you're trying to park it.. since you'd be putting yourself and your car in that much danger.. probably felt out that the car had no chance of running half decent, so he made the smart decision NOT to hurt himself or anyone else
Again. Wrong business to be in. He parked at Dega after a gnat hit the front grille so I'm assuming this was just a continuation.