Carl Long's "S&P's" Debunked

[Paul]

OK I am going to prove paulie boy wrong here!!!
I will list all of his S&P's

Good luck!

2005 Carl Long Stats:
5 Bristol 43 43 42 00 Buyer's Choice / Howes Lubricator (Raynard McGlynn ) Chevrolet 37/500 76,365 overheating

NOT AN S&P. As reported on carl-long.com:

4/4/05 Overheated Engine Ends Day Early For Long & Company:Photo:McGlynn Racing
BRISTOL, TN -- The #00 Buyer's Choice / KelleeKars.com Chevrolet would not last long in Sunday afternoon's race at Bristol Motor Speedway. The team made a crucial error by leaving too much tape on the grill of the car for the start of the race. Carl Long, not yet aware of the issue, asked for only fuel on the first pit stop of the day as the car was handling beautifully. However, around lap 35, their mistaken began to show. The car started to puff out smoke as Long pace around under the 2nd caution of the day. The McGlynn team radioed Long to assess the problem. Carl Long concluded that the engine had begun to overheat. Long attempted to make a pit stop under green to let the crew take a look at the car, but Carl was black flagged for entering at the wrong entrance, and then black flagged again for speeding while attempting to serving his penalty. With the potential of already damaging the engine, the McGlynn crew felt it was best to call it a day to save the engine from blowing up, and not cause any additional trouble for the team or their fellow competitors. The McGlynn Chevrolet's day would end after completing just 37 laps. Long would finish 42nd

10 Darlington 43 21 42 80 Buyer's Choice Auto Warranties (Raynard McGlynn ) Chevrolet 69/370 64,965 rear end

NOT AN S&P

Last weekend, Carl Long qualified a career best 21st position in the #80 McGlynn Racing machine at Darlington Raceway! Unfortunately, the team's mechanical woes would surface again this weekend in another form. A ratchet broke off the rear end at the start of the race. This caused the #80 Chevrolet's handling to rapidly fall off. For the safety of Long and their competitors, the team elected to call it a day once they got lapped by the leaders just shy of lap 70. The McGlynn team would end up finishing a disappointing 42nd after coming into the race with high hopes after a superb qualifying effort.

13 Dover 43 43 42 00 Buyer's Choice Auto Warranties (Raynard McGlynn ) Chevrolet 26/400 71,225 overheating

NOT AN S&P It is also intresting to note that he was running 2nd for a while.

6/6/05 Troubles Continue to Plague Developing McGlynn Team at Dover:Photo: Ralph Francello
DOVER, DE -- After an impressive start to the race that saw driver Carl Long rapidly make his way up the standings pylon, McGlynn racing looked poised for a strong run on Sunday at Dover International Speedway. Unfortunately the run was short lived, when the car began spewing hot water and steam around lap 20, indicating that the engine was about to expire. The cause of this problem resulted from the car type. The car McGlynn Racing had to use, as it was their only car ready, was a speedway style car, typical for high-speed tracks of 1.5 miles or more. The ventilation of the grill on this car was no match for the slower speeds and warm air temps at Dover International Speedway. The #00 Sundance Vacations / KelleeKars.com Chevrolet finished a very disappointing 42nd position after completing just 26 laps of the 400 lap MBNA RacePoints 400.

18 Chicago 43 37 40 00 Sunquest Vacations (Raynard McGlynn ) Dodge 148/267 75,080 handling

Why would they park after finishing half the race? Also, Carl Long had burns on his bottom because no holes were drilled in the seat to allow water from the ice pack thing to escape.

19 Loudon 43 35 43 00 Buyer's Choice Auto Warranties (Raynard McGlynn ) Chevrolet 8/300 65,586 brakes

Their brakes failed because they didn't have enough time to put brake ducts in.

2004:

3 Las Vegas 43 41 38 02 RacingJunk.com (Hermie Sadler ) Pontiac 145/267 64,175 oil pump

How is it an S&P when they finished almost all the race?

19 Loudon 43 33 42 46 Howes Lubricator (Rick Glenn ) Dodge 100/300 57,800 transmission

How is it an S&P when they finished one-third of the race?

20 Pocono 43 43 39 80 Commercial Truck & Trailer (Stan Hover ) Ford 44/200 51,660 too slow

They were black flagged. They didn't WANT to park.

23 Michigan 43 43 39 80 Commercial Truck & Trailer (Stan Hover ) Ford 98/200 57,645 rear end

How is it possible to S&P halfway through a race?

2002:

14 Pocono 43 42 42 85 Mansion / Juvenile Diabetes (Thee Dixon ) Ford 18/200 34,875 brakes

This was a last minute thing. They didn't have enough money to put brake ducts in.

There you go paul. and threaten me about being banned on AIM all you want, I proved you wrong

I didn't threaten to ban you over this. You're lying.

Nick posted this in the "You're killing me" thread in the Shelmerdine board. I'm going to prove him wrong. Also, this is a super-hot topic. If this gets out of hand I will close the thread.

[49]

of all of the above mentioned...two of those were S&Ps.

with understandible reasons.

POCONO: was an extremely short field and Mansion motorsports was litteraly a "field filler". they showed up only to make it so that there were 43 entries. were definitely not prepared to race. however, if you do that and arent taking a spot away from someone else...wheres the harm?

Loudon: Carl qualified for the race on his first lap, then wrecked on the second. the backup car was absolutely terrible and not meant for that type of track. we were pretty sure that day would end quickly.

the rest are legit problems.

[zdawg]

Steve is right, as we both are members over at CLR. Honestly can we look these S&P topics. They are really stupid, and a waste of board space. All it does is cause problems and someone like me will likely end up banned.

[Paul]

I remember Tom posting on CLR about Pocono that they didn't have enough money to put brake ducts in.

[zdawg]

paul00 said:

I remember Tom posting on CLR about Pocono that they didn't have enough money to put brake ducts in.

And the Loudon race was not a S&P:

Carl Long paced himself early on in the Siemens 300 at New Hampshire International Speedway, trying to feel out how the car would handle on the track during race conditions. The #46 Buyer's Choice/Howes Lubricator Dodge was driving fine nearing the one-third mark of the race; Carl was only one lap down in 39th position at this point. A quick caution came out on the track around lap 95. Long made a trip to the pits to get serviced by the McGlynn Racing crew, who was gracious enough to stay the weekend to pit the car for Carl. Everything went as scheduled until the restart of the race. When the race went back to green-flag conditions, Carl went to shift the car up to third gear, but nothing happened. It turned out that the transmission had broke on the Glenn Racing-owned Dodge. This would cause a premature end the team's day. Carl finished 42nd after completing 100 laps

[49]

yeah, i was talking about a loudon race in the mcglynn car.

[zdawg]

49 said:

yeah, i was talking about a loudon race in the mcglynn car.

i know dude, was just helping explain what happend to Carl in his own car in 2004. Some people should really do research be4 they open there mouth...lol ;D

[Ryan Ray]

Ok folks lets not get out of hand with this debate